Forum: Member Bios
Topic: Torgersen Change of Sides
started by: Wilhelm Torgersen

Posted by Wilhelm Torgersen on Apr. 09 2013,19:51
Today me and my father had a talk about me reenacting as a German. He says "my father fought the Germans because of how evil they are". Are family has been so affected by the Nazis I am no longer to own anything associated with Germany except airsoft. I need to sell all my gear fast before I gets thrown away. I am able to reenact as a Russian and a American. If anybody can take care of my gear that would be a huge help. I will be posting on the for sale section for all my gear that needs to be sold. By the way if this is the wrong place to post this I am sorry.
Posted by wellnitz on Apr. 10 2013,11:56

(Wilhelm Torgersen @ Apr. 09 2013,19:51)
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Today me and my father had a talk about me reenacting as a German. He says "my father fought the Germans because of how evil they are". Are family has been so affected by the Nazis I am no longer to own anything associated with Germany except airsoft. I need to sell all my gear fast before I gets thrown away. I am able to reenact as a Russian and a American. If anybody can take care of my gear that would be a huge help. I will be posting on the for sale section for all my gear that needs to be sold. By the way if this is the wrong place to post this I am sorry.

While I completely understand and respect your decision, The Nazi Regime was evil, German people are not.
It is a sad fact that the Nazi's taped a deep antisemitic vain that had existed for hundreds of years in Europe.
French police rounded up Jewish citizens without hesitation, Ukrainians participated in mass murders of their Jewish citizens, Latvia and Estonia also played a role...

My Grandfather, who was born of two German parents, fought for the U.S. Army and hated the Nazi regime, but did not hate the German people.

Remember our history as American citizens. Our Army conducted genocide against the Native American Population for over one hundred years, killing men, women, and children. But we do not hate ourselves or our modern Army. Many of the key players, in the end, were Civil War Heroes like Sherman and Custer.

Also keep in mind if you decide to reenact as a Russian, Stalin's Soviet Union was responsible for around 40 million deaths. At the end of his life he had his eyes on the Russian Jewish population as his next target. Luckily he passed away before implementing any further actions.

I'd play it safe and go U.S. :)

Posted by Wilhelm Torgersen on Apr. 10 2013,15:25

(wellnitz @ Apr. 10 2013,11:56)
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(Wilhelm Torgersen @ Apr. 09 2013,19:51)
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Today me and my father had a talk about me reenacting as a German. He says "my father fought the Germans because of how evil they are". Are family has been so affected by the Nazis I am no longer to own anything associated with Germany except airsoft. I need to sell all my gear fast before I gets thrown away. I am able to reenact as a Russian and a American. If anybody can take care of my gear that would be a huge help. I will be posting on the for sale section for all my gear that needs to be sold. By the way if this is the wrong place to post this I am sorry.

While I completely understand and respect your decision, The Nazi Regime was evil, German people are not.
It is a sad fact that the Nazi's taped a deep antisemitic vain that had existed for hundreds of years in Europe.
French police rounded up Jewish citizens without hesitation, Ukrainians participated in mass murders of their Jewish citizens, Latvia and Estonia also played a role...

My Grandfather, who was born of two German parents, fought for the U.S. Army and hated the Nazi regime, but did not hate the German people.

Remember our history as American citizens. Our Army conducted genocide against the Native American Population for over one hundred years, killing men, women, and children. But we do not hate ourselves or our modern Army. Many of the key players, in the end, were Civil War Heroes like Sherman and Custer.

Also keep in mind if you decide to reenact as a Russian, Stalin's Soviet Union was responsible for around 40 million deaths. At the end of his life he had his eyes on the Russian Jewish population as his next target. Luckily he pasted away before implementing any further actions.

I'd play it safe and go U.S. :)

I will be attending events just as a 2nd ranger for a little while but when I get used to the reenacting deal then I will go soviet. My father says "anything just not German and North Korean". We understand that Stalin killed millions of people just not as many as Adolf.

Posted by wellnitz on Apr. 11 2013,23:20

(Wilhelm Torgersen @ Apr. 10 2013,15:25)
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I will be attending events just as a 2nd ranger for a little while but when I get used to the reenacting deal then I will go soviet. My father says "anything just not German and North Korean". We understand that Stalin killed millions of people just not as many as Adolf.

The jury is still out as far as who was responsible for more deaths, Stalin or Hitler.
Glad to see you are going with the U.S. 2nd Rangers for Airsoft, good choice.
I had to laugh when I saw the second sentence. "My father says "anything just not German and North Korean"."
Your Dad is a great guy who just wants the best for you.

I still say go U.S. for the reenactment side. No worries about multiple atrocities and mass genocide.

Posted by Wilhelm Torgersen on Apr. 12 2013,07:15

(wellnitz @ Apr. 11 2013,23:20)
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(Wilhelm Torgersen @ Apr. 10 2013,15:25)
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I will be attending events just as a 2nd ranger for a little while but when I get used to the reenacting deal then I will go soviet. My father says "anything just not german and North Korean". We understand that Stalin killed millions of people just not as many as adolf.

The jury is still out as far as who was responsible for more deaths, Stalin or Hitler.
Glad to see you are going with the U.S. 2nd Rangers for Airsoft, good choice.
I had to laugh when I saw the second sentence. "My father says "anything just not German and North Korean"."
Your Dad is a great guy who just wants the best for you.

I still say go U.S. for the reenactment side. No worries about multiple atrocities and mass genocide.

Ok
Posted by andre on Apr. 12 2013,07:53
Willhelm,
I appreciate you and your families feelings and am glad to hear this isn't the end of your airsoft hobby.

Posted by Wilhelm Torgersen on Apr. 12 2013,15:21

(andre @ Apr. 12 2013,07:53)
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Willhelm,
I appreciate you and your families feelings and am glad to hear this isn't the end of your airsoft hobby.

Thanks and I will probably be changing my name to Pvt. Nelson.

Posted by andre on Apr. 13 2013,18:41

(Wilhelm Torgersen @ Apr. 12 2013,15:21)
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Thanks and I will probably be changing my name to pvt Nelson.

You could be Pvt.Willhelm Nelson. :D
Posted by Alban on Apr. 13 2013,22:02
Heck if the Wilhelm is still too much, you could even be Pvt William Nelson. That would be a good British name as well :)
Posted by Wilhelm Torgersen on Apr. 13 2013,22:12
Yeah I always was interested in British but you can't find any WWII English airsoft guns and a group around MN but the rangers are fine.
Posted by Terd Ferguson on Apr. 15 2013,18:56
Yessss!  Another American.  3rd Infantry baby!
Posted by Wilhelm Torgersen on Apr. 15 2013,20:28
Yup I have a entire airborne collection even a t5 parachute,and sgt toms custom k98 showed up today so at least I don't have a 4 year old agm mp40. And I just got a 1930s camera so I guess I can be on camera duty for awhile.
Posted by Ersatzjack on Apr. 16 2013,00:30
I changed this to the Member Bios area as it had nothing to do with events and changed the title to something related to the topic.  Will, you might want to delete your old bio when you get around to something new.
Posted by Wilhelm Torgersen on Apr. 16 2013,07:23
Ok
Posted by The Legacy on Apr. 16 2013,12:28

(Wilhelm Torgersen @ Apr. 15 2013,20:28)
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Yup I have a entire airborne collection even a t5 parachute,and sgt toms custom k98 showed up today so at least I don't have a 4 year old agm mp40. And I just got a 1930s camera so I guess I can be on camera duty for awhile.

Not to hijack this thread but I thought this Sgt. Tom guy stopped making rifles. Is it nice? Do you plan on using it?
Posted by Wilhelm Torgersen on Apr. 16 2013,15:40
He made this one awhile ago when he was making them, he sold it to a guy. When the guy was going to return it because he never used it, sgt Tom remembered that I was looking for a affordable k98 and not some d-boys crap he talked to me and we made a deal for $350 dollars and it has a wood stock and 10 mags. I will use it for my American impression because I got this instead of a BAR. It's a good shooter and feels good.
Posted by Wilhelm Torgersen on Apr. 22 2013,22:00
Don't mean to post not on topic but Justin was talking about my rifle and I just made a trade for a BAR so you guys can't see the rifle.
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